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- Norma67 - 03-05-2005 11:39 PM

My Dr said I must drink a Small Glass of wine each day.
I have never drank any alchol in my life, I hate the smell as well as the taste.
I've tried a couple of bottles already, and had to throw them away, as they tasted so horrible.
Is there such a wine that is "sweet and fruity" tasting.My Dr said try "Covey Run",YUK!! I just poured it down the drain.
Help!, before I go broke trying to locate something thats decent. Oh yes, he said it must be a red wine

- californiagirl - 03-06-2005 12:29 AM

Try Riunite Lambrusco. (Hope the spelling is correct.) It is a fruity, red Italian table wine found in most supermarkets.

- Georgie - 03-07-2005 09:54 AM

If you aren't interested in wine except for it's health benefits, try mixing your small glass of wine with 7-UP and make yourself a wine cooler. You should find that palatable.

- Kcwhippet - 03-07-2005 10:37 AM

Welch's purple grape juice comes close to wine in providing similar health benefits. If you don't like the taste of wine, that may be the way to go for you.

- Thomas - 03-07-2005 04:42 PM

If it's one glass of wine a day, try a Ruby Port.

- Zinner - 03-09-2005 03:21 AM

None of the research I've seen shows grape juice to be anywhere similar to wine in the amount of resveratrol and other healthy substances. For the most part people would have to drink more grape juice than they'd be willing to glug to get the same benefit. In wine, it's in much more concentrated form.

Plus for quite a number of years, researchers I've talked with say that the alcohol itself (in small amounts, of course) contributes to the health benefits. Lately I've begun to hear some reports about this on TV too, so apparently that news is getting out to the general population.

I think the wine industry is trying to come up with some products for people who like sweet tastes. There's one recent one called Rio Dulce which bills itself as "sweet red wine." Looks more like a dark rose to me. And the release recommended that folks might make sangria out of it. If I could find the release, I'd post the recipe.

But perhaps a wine drink such as sangria might be the way to go for someone who doesn't care for the taste of red wine.

- Norma67 - 03-09-2005 07:35 PM

To all the nice people who have sent me ideas on wines that I could try, a big THANK YOU.
I purchased the California Girls suggestion, and I will soon try that Ruby Port, I also hope that someday soon, they will be able to produce a wine sweet enough for people like me
At 67 I'm too old to become a "Wino" I hope

- winoweenie - 03-10-2005 08:37 AM

You young pup.Have fun and drink what you enjopy. WW

- Boaz Bagbag - 03-19-2005 10:44 PM

Red Wine is good for your heart! People who consume wine in reasonable amount every day (1 glass a day) live long life!

- Boaz Bagbag - 03-30-2005 12:48 AM

who's with me here? [img][/img]

- Thomas - 03-30-2005 07:53 AM

Boaz, we are all with you. Search through this forum for the past year and you'll see the subject covered at length.

We also know that the earliest known wine site has been discovered in Georgia--about 8,000 years ago. But I have to tell you, the modern Georgian wines an importer brought to me when I owned a wine shop were not competitive products in the New York market.

- Kcwhippet - 03-30-2005 09:56 AM

Georgian wines aren't doing all that well here in the Boston area either. We brought some into the shop a few months ago, and the only sales we've made were to a few Russian ex-pats who live in the area. They bought them as a bit of nostalgia, I suppose, because they've come back in and said they weren't that good, now that they have other wines (from the U.S., France, Italy, Australia, etc.) to compare them to.

- TheEngineer - 03-30-2005 03:40 PM

I thought that the earliest known wine site as in China about 9000 AD or 9000 years ago...suffice to say, their wine industry is even smaller than Georgia's now...or I could be worng on that too.....

- Thomas - 03-30-2005 04:24 PM

Engineer, according the research I've followed it's first Georgia then Iran (on the border with Armenia and Iraq) where the oldest wine finds have been discovered.

Ancient Wine, by Patrick McGovern, the University of PA; a specialist in wine archeology.

- tw - 03-30-2005 06:21 PM

P.S. 9000 A.D. is in 7000 years if you want to get into the B.C.'s then you can start going older.

- LL - 04-01-2005 11:20 PM

Hi, Norma

Have you tried any red wine from Romania? I recommend you try "Busuioaca de Bohotin" - most of the liquors stores carry this in MN. It is a very sweet wine, sweeter than I imagined. Hope you like/enjoy it, because it is really goooooood. [img][/img]

- TheEngineer - 04-01-2005 11:30 PM

Yeap...typo...should have been B.C.

I found it again and I think that this report is far from conclusive but it did appear in December 4th 2004 article in the BBC and I'v read this elsewhere. Nonetheless, I don't believe that this is so confirmed as to be generally accepted yet and it does only reference alcohol versus grape wines.

"Ancient brew discovered in China

People in ancient China may have been enjoying the delights of wine as long as 9,000 years ago, making them the first in the world to enjoy a tipple. US scientists found traces of the vintage alcohol made from rice, honey and fruit in pottery jars excavated in a Neolithic village in northern China.

Previously, the earliest evidence of beer and wine-making dated from some 7,400 years ago in Iran. The scientists say the old brewing traditions are still found in China.

The Chinese brew was discovered by researchers led by archaeo-chemist Patrick McGovern, of the University of Pennsylvania Museum. "Chemical analyses of ancient organics absorbed, and preserved, in pottery jars from the Neolithic village of Jiahu, in Henan province, northern China, have revealed that a mixed fermented beverage of rice, honey, and fruit was being produced as early as 9,000 years ago," the university said in a statement.

"This evidence appears to suggest that the Chinese developed fermented beverages even earlier than the Middle East, or perhaps at the same time," Dr McGovern told Reuters.
Jiahu has already yielded some of the earliest known pottery from China, ancient musical instruments, domesticated rice and possibly the oldest Chinese pictographic writing.

Dr McGovern's team also analysed liquids more than 3,000 years old which were preserved inside sealed bronze vessels from the Shang and Western Zhou dynasties in the same region.

In 1990, Dr McGovern found chemical evidence of wine dating to 3,500-3,100 BC at Godin Tepe in the Zagros mountains of western Iran. "

- Thomas - 04-02-2005 11:09 AM

Engineer, check out McGovern's quote. He specifically called the Chinese finding a "fermented beverage." The rice mixture included fruit, but no mention of grapes. The Chinese may have also been the first to distill spirits--from rice.

By not mentioning grapes, McGovern must not have been able to discover tartaric acid residue in the Chinese findins--that is how he measures his wine findings. Tartaric in the East, according to him, was found only in grapes.

Without grapes, it ain't wine. The technical reason for that is that grapes are the only fruit to harbor living yeast cells and enough sugar so they can start their own fermentation, without human intervention, and bring the alcohol level to 12%. No other fruit can do that beyond about 8% alcohol.

McGovern believes that even in Mesopotamia, they fermented first without grapes and then somehow discovered that adding grapes helped to make a consistent, probably more stable, product.

The modern word "wine" stems from an ancient Semitic word to describe grapes that fermented into alcohol.

So, when I mentioned McGovern's findings, I was talking about wine as it fits into that definition.

[This message has been edited by foodie (edited 04-02-2005).]

- TheEngineer - 04-02-2005 09:11 PM

Yeap! Got that. When I reread before posting, I found that the article referenced only alcoholic beverages versus grape wines...posting this was partially to admit that my recollections were wrong....again [img][/img]

But I thought that the second line was cute.

- willp58 - 04-22-2005 04:27 PM

ONE glass/day?? I'm in trouble...
I can't even start my Weber on ONE glass..hehe