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- curious - 06-15-2003 12:50 PM
Bucko, have a question for you.
I don't know the medical terminology, so bear with me, okay.
Hubby had some tests run, a monitor on his heart, MRI, and other tests. Results showed that he has a valve that is not working right, his heart skips beats, slows down, stops (pauses) and then speeds up.
This has happened all his life but lately gotten worse.
I have noticed that when he is drinking wine it seems to happen less, I think, haven't done any serious checking, college took too much of my time, hardly ever saw him.
Question, is the wine a factor, a positive one, in the lessing of this heart beat problem? I know that wine is good for the heart, that was a side benefit of drinking it, and family doctor approved it.
But could it be the reason that the episodes have been less? Would drinking more wine (we drink about a bottle a week, perhaps one and a half sometimes) be helpful? Should I encourage him to consume more, and does it matter if it is red or white?
He sees family doc in two weeks, heart specialist in four months to review it all, they said not a big problem, to not worry over it all.
Can you shed some insight on this, or should we just wait until he sees the specialist?
- Bucko - 06-15-2003 02:50 PM
I really don't know what you are describing. Did they mention sick sinus syndrome? Paroxysmal supraventricular tachycardia (PSVT)? Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome?
Alcohol can lower seizure threshold, in excessive amounts can cause cardiomyopathy, but nothing for the above conditions, either positive or negative that I know about. Good question to pop to the cardiologist.
- curious - 06-16-2003 11:36 AM
thaks for what input you could give, especially with the limited info I gave you!!
I will check with family doc and the cardiologist both to see what input I can get.
Hubby is a typical male (no insult intended guys), he never asks questions, nor give info about how he is feeling, I have to force him to see a doc and then call and leave a list of symptoms.
He just says, "I'm okay". Yeah, sure.
- Drew - 06-16-2003 12:59 PM
Janette, I have Mitral Valve Prolapse (MVP)and have been successfully treated with beta blockers for years, I now rarely experience pre-ventricular contractions (PVC's) but, and here's my point, excessive alcohol consumption will induce the PVC's so it's moderate consumption for me. Could this be your hubbies problem, the MVP that is?
- curious - 06-19-2003 07:10 PM
Asked hubby to find out what he has and he checked, it is what you stated, he drinks no more than a bottle a week. We will open a bottle, and have about half a glass, maybe the next day drink some more. We generally throw out 1/3 of the bottle.
We might open up another botte that week, or not, depends.
The odd thing is, since we have restated drinking wine, he has complained less of it happening. We had taken a break for almost a month.
Thanks for the input.
- Bucko - 06-19-2003 10:08 PM
About 10% of people have MVP. Most are asymptomatic. As Drew states, alcohol lowers the threshold. Moderation is the key.
- Thomas - 06-20-2003 07:52 AM
So, to reference another forum, wine is both food AND medicine!!!
[This message has been edited by foodie (edited 06-20-2003).]
- Drew - 06-20-2003 08:11 AM
Also would add that I now exerience less to 0 symptoms than compared to my previous 30+ MVP aware years and a hugh decline in symptoms over the past 12 years due in part, we believe, to the addition of an over the counter magnesium supplement daily and wine, of course [img]http://www.wines.com/ubb2/biggrin.gif[/img]. Would check with your hubbies MD. before adding the magnesium. My Cardiologist rec. the supplement and he was right on. Also exessive caffine and negative mental stress, not physical, will sometimes induce the PVC's. Tell him to hang in there, for me it's not really an issue any more.
- curious - 06-20-2003 11:21 AM
Didn't know it, but he had an appointment with family doc today. Discussed the heart valve (we had copies of test results sent to him), said it was a mild type, but to see the heart doc and he would keep an eye on it also.
Told him to cut back on the coffee (he drinks way too much, so he is now going to decaf) and I have taken care of some of the mental stress, I am taking a break from college to get a job.
Since I have agreed to take a sabatical from my Master's, he has been less stressed. I have checked, and after a couple of years work, I will be able to enter a PsyD program, where I can graduate with a Doctorate at a locall college.
Anyhow, he now knows what is going on, and how to better take care of himself. No caffine, moderation in wine, and more exercise.
I really appreciate all the input I have gotten here, it helps to hear from others how they have dealt with same or similar situation. Thanks all.
- Bucko - 06-20-2003 08:39 PM
We are a family here.... any time.
- Georgie - 06-20-2003 09:03 PM
ssshhh! Don't tell Bucko, but he just said a very sweet thing!`
- Bucko - 06-20-2003 10:17 PM
YIKES! It was the booze talking......
- curious - 06-20-2003 10:46 PM
I'll just pretend I didn't read that, [img]http://www.wines.com/ubb2/wink.gif[/img]
- Georgie - 06-21-2003 05:16 AM
Keep drinkin', Doc!
- Drew - 06-21-2003 07:03 AM
If we're a family here, what's that make WW? The crazy uncle or the family pet? [img]http://www.wines.com/ubb2/biggrin.gif[/img]
- Bucko - 06-21-2003 07:10 AM
Well, since he spends most of his time in a cage, you figure it out.
- Georgie - 03-04-2004 12:58 PM
I thought I remembered reading about this on the board. On Tuesday I had an episode of PSVT (racing heart beat.) I've had a few episodes over the past two years but this one managed to send me from my classroom to the ER via ambulance! It began around noon, and wouldn't you know it, I had a whole roomful of parents arriving for a special event at 1:30. I felt lousy but didn't let on. Got through the event, said good-bye to the last parent and tried to talk to the kids. I couldn't get enough air to talk to them. I called the school nurse who brought oxygen, and the kids were herded into another teacher's room. Since I was having such difficulty breathing I agreed to call 911. Wouldn't you know, they parked the rig directly opposite the windows of the classroom where all my kids were! They saw me get loaded into the ambulance and as it was dismissal time, they went home not knowing what was happening. Kids were crying...parents were in disbelief having just left me a few minutes before...what a circus! At the hospital they gave me an injection of something that stopped my heart(flat-line on the monitor) and restarted it at a normal rate. I never felt dead even for a second! Pretty amazing, really. Then I was perfectly fine and after getting the results of the enzyme tests they'd done, I was allowed to go home. They decided I didn't need a stress test since my heart had been beating at over 190 for four hours, and I was still alive! All this being said...alcohol did not play any role in this since I've been pretty much on the wagon for the last two months. I drink only one cup of coffee in the morning...no other caffeine..I guess it's just a condition I have for some reason. And believe me, if ever I could have used a nice glass of wine when I got home, it was that day! Lord have mercy!
- wondersofwine - 03-04-2004 03:46 PM
So glad you're all right! Guess you put the students, parents and staff through the wringer with the sudden collapse. My mother has experienced racing heartbeats too but she is 90 and doing fine with a pacemaker so you can probably take an optimistic view.
- hotwine - 03-04-2004 04:37 PM
Sounds to me like a serious episode of atrial fibrillation. Tell your GP you want a referral to a cardiololgist, kiddo. And pronto. The pacemaker might be all you need, but the cardio is the person to sort that out.
Had an MI in 1990 at the age of 49, with all the usual medical indignities over the succeeding eight months. Not something to ignore (although I did for a full month after the event. Not very smart.)
- Georgie - 03-04-2004 04:53 PM
I have an appointment with the GP on Saturday. He put me on inderal as a maintenance drug. (I had it "as needed" and I took two doses on Tuesday without much effect before calling for help.) Last year I did see a cardiologist about it who gave me a blood pressure med and told me about a catheterization procedure that can correct the problem for good. I'm not exactly eager to sign up for that. Not to be cocky or nonchalant about a heart condition, but I don't think it's as serious a thing as it might sound. A print-out they gave me at the hospital says that if it cannot be controlled with medication a catheterization would be indicated. I'll say this...it made me feel lousy!