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- wineguruchgo - 12-18-2004

Hello Folks,

Not very often I find myself asking a question.

I have a few 97 cabs and bordeaux blends from California. I know that wines go through a transitional phase where the tannins actually break down and they taste funky.

Anyone had any 97's of late? Are they any good or should I wait a little longer?

Thanks!


- Innkeeper - 12-18-2004

It all depends on how well made they are. If they are premium wines hold off for two or three years. If they are journeyman level drink away. We have finished all our entry level Tobin James '01s (Legend) and they drank just fine.


- wineguruchgo - 12-18-2004

Thanks IK,

After I wrote it I started an excel spreadsheet for all of my older vintages - then I went to the often berated Spectator for their ideas.

Some I'm really questioning. Like the 97 Freemark Abbey Bosche that they are saying should have been consummed years ago. How can that be?

Guess I'm going to have to pop the baby open and see for myself. My luck it would be fine and need more time.


- winoweenie - 12-18-2004

Hi WineC and as usual the Spexculator is dispensing some VERY bad info. The Bosche is one of the great Calif vineyards with superb ageing potential. I'm not touching my Bosche for another 2-4. Looking back I tasted it at 5 (02) and came away with the same impression. WW Go back a year on the cab thread and you'll find many posts I've made on the various 97s.

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- wineguruchgo - 12-19-2004

Thanks WW!

I appreciate your input. Not going to touch the Bosche for at least another few years.

I'll check out the cab references.


- wineguruchgo - 12-19-2004

Anyone have any thoughts on these wines - thoughts that I should have drunk them by now or should do so now? Otherwise, I'll consider it that I should keep them laying down.

I have more that I need to add to the list - I just haven't gotten to them yet!

Any insight is appreciated.


1993 Heitz Cabernet
1993 Mondavi Cabernet Rsv
1994 Ferrari Carano Tresor
1994 Freemark Abbey Cabernet
1995 Ferrari Carano Tresor
1995 Freemark Abbey Cabernet
1995 Frescobaldi Mormoretto Cabernet
1995 Meerlust Merlot
1996 Chalk Hill Cabernet
1996 Col Solare
1996 Conn Creek Cabernet LTD
1996 Conn Creek Anthology
1996 CSM Cabernet Rsv
1996 Far Niente Cabernet
1996 Freemark Abbey Bosche
1996 Heitz Cabernet
1996 Krug Generations
1996 Mondavi Cabernet
1996 Quintessa
1996 Simi Cabernet Rsv
1997 Chapoutier La Bernardine
1997 CSM Meritage
1997 Dom. La Gros Vosne Romanee
1997 Estancia Meritage
1997 Far Niente Dolce
1997 Fransciscan Magnificat
1997 Freemark Abbey Bosche
1997 Frescobaldi Nippozano Rsv
1997 Fritz Shop Block Chardonnay
1997 Gundlach Bundschu Merlot
1997 Heitz Cabernet
1997 Krug Cabernet
1997 Lindemans Limestone Ridge Cab/Shiraz
1997 Luce Blend
1997 Lucente Blend
1997 Mondavi Cabernet
1997 Mt. Veeder Cabernet
1997 Penfolds Bin 707
1997 Penfolds Bin 389
1997 Simi Cabernet
1997 Tommasi Amarone
1998 Byron IO
1998 Chapoutier Les Becasses
1998 CSM Merlot
1998 CSM Cabernet
1998 Far Niente Cabernet
1998 Ferrari Carano Eldorado Noir
1998 Mondavi Cabernet Rsv
1998 Mondavi Chardonnay
1998 Quintessa
1998 Rutherford Hill Merlot
1999 Cesare Amarone
1999 Chapoutier Les Meysonniers
1999 Cline Ancient Vine Zin
1999 Lungarotti Rubesco
1999 Renteria Pinot Noir
2000 Pio Cesare Dolcetto
2000 Torres Sangre de Toro


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- hotwine - 12-19-2004

Just a couple of notes....
Tommasi Amarone: hold
Pio Cesare Dolcetto: drink quickly
Sangre de Toro: give away to someone you don't like


- winoweenie - 12-19-2004

You need to start drinking your stash beginning with the 93s and work forward to the 96s. Skip the 97s temporarily and do the 98s, then the 2000s and back to the 97s. Hopefully you wont be too dissapointed in the bottles that may have seen better days. Good drinking. WW


- wineguruchgo - 12-19-2004

Thanks guys!

Hotwine - very funny about the Spanish! I've got several in mind!

WW-I'll take your advice. The good thing about this is that I didn't pay for one bottle! One of the perks for working for wine distributor who didn't pay attention to what we were pulling!


- Kcwhippet - 12-19-2004

Good thing this isn't a "real names" board.

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- wineguruchgo - 12-19-2004

not to fear KC! Can't pull anything over on you guys!

Person I was speaking of is soon to be former boss!


- wondersofwine - 12-20-2004

WW gave good advice. The '98 is a softer vintage (and the 2000 may be also) so will not need as much time as the '97 to resolve tannins.


- wondersofwine - 12-20-2004

Is 97 too young to drink? Nah--I started drinking at 21 (and had a few illegal cocktails before that).