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- nk - 12-03-2001
i recieved this bottle of wine and i have heard good things about it, but i don't know enough about it. i haven't been able to find it in any books, so far...
Munsterer Romerberg
Liswein Nahe
...those are the names on the front of the bottle. Can you please give me as much info about this as you can? including price. thanks! [img]http://www.wines.com/ubb2/smile.gif[/img]
- wondersofwine - 12-04-2001
Is it possibly "Eiswein" rather than "Liswein"? That would indicate a very special dessert wine with concentrated ripe flavor and sweetness (grapes harvested after a frost and only a few drops of grape juice pressed from the partly crystalized grapes so it takes many grapes to produce a bottle).
The Nahe area produces some good wines. Bad Kreuznach is one city known for its annual Weinfest and maybe as a bottling or distribution center for the Nahe, but I'm not familiar with some of the smaller towns along the Nahe or the Munsterer Romerberg vineyard.
It should be an enjoyable wine and very special if it is indeed an Eiswein. Eisweins are usually quite expensive and sometimes sold in half-size bottles 375 ml to keep the price from being astronomical. Some Eisweins might sell for $40-50 for the 375 ml bottle. What vintage?
- barnesy - 12-04-2001
Looks like we are missing the Producer and the Grape type as well. Type in everything that is one all the labels on the bottle and we'll help you figure out what is what and then what exactly you have.
Barnesy
- nk - 12-05-2001
thanks! this is what the whole bottle says:
500 ml
L-49616
2000
Munsterer
Romerberg
weissburgunder
white grape wine
Eiswein
Nahe
Product Of Germany
Qualitatswein mit Pradikat
A. P. Nr. 7 907 660 045 01
Bottled by:
Ferdinand Pieroth GmbH
D-55452 Burg Layen
Alc. 8.5
by Vol.
41336-9
Tell me what you know!!! [img]http://www.wines.com/ubb2/smile.gif[/img]
- hotwine - 12-05-2001
A Pieroth Eiswein....... could be very nice. Could be. But I've not seen the "white Burgundy" description before.
[This message has been edited by hotwine (edited 12-05-2001).]
- hotwine - 12-05-2001
Another point or two: Pieroth is in the business of "direct marketing", and uses salesmen in large metro areas to contact wine customers and sign them up for a program, by which they will receive "special" wines at "bargain" prices. I participated in their program for a couple of years in the late 1970's, but found myself being stuck with cases of crap from Rumania and Bulgaria at German Spatlese prices. That's not to say Pieroth doesn't sometimes turn out some nice wines - he does. His 1976 Rheingau Spatlese was superb. So you might get lucky with this Eiswein, although the Nahe is not a top producing area.
- wondersofwine - 12-05-2001
I was also puzzled by the weissburgunder variety so looked it up on www.germanwine.de/English. Voila, weissburgunder is the Pinot Blanc grape. I have never had a weissburgunder Eiswein so cannot comment directly, but I have had Eisweins from Scheurebe/Rulander blend as well as Rieslings. (The Scheurebe/Rulander was marvelous).
- Innkeeper - 12-05-2001
If the grey matter serves me, aren't some folks in BC using pinot blanc in icewine?
- hotwine - 12-05-2001
Good detective work, Wow. I had assumed that weissburgunder was telling us that the wine wasn't made from Riesling grapes, but had no idea that it was Pinot Blanc.
That's my main complaint with Pieroth: they throw these ringers at you that masquerade as top-flight wines, while getting you to pay for the good stuff.
I think I still have a bottle of Rumanian swill stewing out there in the old storm cellar, from over 20 years ago. Keep forgetting to take it to the ranch to use for target practice.